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| Does God Inspire Astrologers or Psychics? Also in Defense of Ellen White! |
If some modern day prophet were to arise suddenly and begin calling people to repentance, healing the sick, raising the dead, bringing fire from the sky, and revealing your life secrets - would you believe in him? Should you believe in him? Life or death is wrapped up in your answer to this question. What does the Bible say on this subject? What does the Bible say about despising prophecy? |
| The word "prophet" appears the first time in the incident of Abimelech, king of Gerar, and Abraham in which Abraham is referred to as a prophet. |
"And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh and Shur, and sojourned in Gerar. And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, She is my sister: and Abimelech king of Gerar sent, and took Sarah. But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife. But Abimelech had not come near her: and he said, Lord, wilt thou slay also a righteous nation? Said he not unto me, She is my sister? and she, even she herself said, He is my brother: in the integrity of my heart and innocency of my hands have I done this. And God said unto him in a dream, Yea, I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me: therefore suffered I thee not to touch her. Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt surely die, thou, and all that are thine. Therefore Abimelech rose early in the morning, and called all his servants, and told all these things in their ears: and the men were sore afraid. Then Abimelech called Abraham, and said unto him, What hast thou done unto us? and what have I offended thee, that thou hast brought on me and on my kingdom a great sin? thou hast done deeds unto me that ought not to be done. And Abimelech said unto Abraham, What sawest thou, that thou hast done this thing? And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake." Genesis 20:1-11. [On integrity of prophecy see 2Sam. 7:1-7; 1Ki. 22:10-18; Jer. 43:2-4; Dan. 8:27] |
| We learn here that the expressions "of the times and seasons" are used to tell the reader that prophecy will be fulfilled in the distant future. We notice that 1.Thess. 5:1-2 leads up into 2.Thess. 2 where it speaks of the antichrist, the mystery of iniquity. |
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Answer: Yes, both men and women will prophesy in the last days. Joel 2:28-32 |
| 2. | Jesus at his ascension placed the gift of "prophets" in His church, along with four other gifts: apostles, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (Ephesians 4:7-11). Why did God place these gifts in the church? | "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, or the edifying of the body of Christ." Ephesians 4:12 |
| Answer: Jesus gave all five gifts for the perfecting of the saints. The perfecting of God's end-time church is not possible if any of these five gifts is missing and so it is that the gift of prophecy is essential for perfecting God's church. |
| 3. | In Bible days, was the gift of prophecy limited to men? |
| Answer: No! In addition to many men who had the gift of prophecy, God also gave the gift to at least eight women: Anna (Luke 2:36-38); Miriam (Exodus 15:20); Deborah (Judges 4:4); Huldah (2.Kings 22:14); and the four daughters of Philip, an evangelist (Acts 21:8,9). |
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How long were these gifts to remain in His church? Detractors say, "The sign gifts had a unique purpose: to give the apostles credentials, that is, to let the people know that these men all spoke the truth of God. Once the Word of God was inscripturated, the sign gifts were no longer needed and they ceased." John F. MacArthur, Charismatic Chaos, 1993, p. 199. |
"Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." 1.Cor. 1:6,7 "For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." 1.Cor. 13:9,10. "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ." Ephesians 4:11-13 |
| Answer: The cited scriptures show that the detractor's view is not seconded by the Apostles. Since we know that the "testimony of Christ" is the Spirit of Prophecy (Rev. 19:10), we know that these gifts will remain until the Jesus comes again, until God's people are all unified, mature Christians - which, of course, will be at the end of time. - While we know that the gift of prophecy is among those which will be available till the end, we also know that we must test all those who claim this gift by the Bible, for their will be false prophesying too. We also know, when God's people shun the sayings of the gift of prophecy, it will not be poured out any longer. |
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What does the Bible teach about counterfeit gifts?
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
" Matthew 7:22,23. | "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." 2.Thess. 2:9,10 "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." Revelation 16:13,14 |
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Answer: By the power of God, Moses and Aaron, standing before Pharaoh turned a staff into a snake (Ex. 7:10). the river Nile into blood (Ex. 7:20), and made frogs come out of the Nile to cover the land (Ex. 8:6); but by the power of Satan the Egyptian magicians could do the same. However, from the 3rd plague onward the Egyptian sorcerers were unable to counterfeit God's miracles. This teaches us two thing: (1) Satan can produce miracles that look like the genuine article, and (2) Satan can work only within the limits set by God. Counterfeit gifts are not just a perversion of the true gifts of God but can be similar manifestations from a different source - Satan. We learn more from the above: First: False manifestations can be done by those professing the name of Jesus. Second: There will be miracles, miraculous signs and wonders, powerful enough to deceive many. Even though something is done in the name of Jesus, it does not mean it is genuine. Third: In the endtime, Satan is working with all his power to deceive as many as possible. We must apply the Bible tests to see if they are from God. |
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Answer: The Bible shows that ever since Satan used the snake in the Garden of Eden to deceive Eve, he has used a variety of human agents to deceive people, including the giving of predictions that have come true. Which means, then, that the fulfillment of a prediction is not a guarantee that it is a true prophecy given by God. Nevertheless, prophets and prophecies play an important part in the plan of salvation. This point is made quite clear in the Bible: See 1.Cor. 12:8-10: Listed as one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Romans 12:6: Listed as the 1st gift. 1.Cor. 12:28-30; Eph. 4:11: Listed as the 2nd gift. |
| 7. | Comments: The purpose of the prophetic gift is to provide a means of communication between the Creator and His creatures. Prophetic messages in Scripture have unveiled the future (Daniel 2), counseled and reproved kings (Isa. 7:3,4), warned of coming judgments (Jer. 1:14-16), called for revival (Joel 2:12,13), and encouraged and comforted God's people (Isa. 40:1,2). | "Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2.Peter 1:21 |
| Answer: Prophets speak as they are "moved by the Holy Ghost." The word "ghost" comes from "ghast," the old English word for "spirit," so today we usually say Holy "Spirit." Prophets do not express their own private opinions in spiritual matters. Their thoughts come from Jesus, through the Holy Spirit. A true prophet does not make him/herself into a prophet. |
| 8.. | God speaks to prophets in three different ways. What are these ways? | "If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream." "With him will I speak mouth to mouth." Numbers 12:6,8 |
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Answer: Visions, dreams, or face to face. |
| 9. | I am a person of the 21st century and I might have the gift of prophecy. How can I be sure? | "If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream." "With him will I speak mouth to mouth." Numbers 12:6,8 |
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Answer: The answer is already given above and we quote the same Bible verse. Most of all, keep studying and if you have trouble agreeing to anything you read, read it over again. It is important to not fall into a trap where other spirits than God's Spirit can influence you. It may cost you your eternal life and even your life. - In general, the God of heaven gives this gift only to those who obey His Word, which includes keeping all Ten of His Commandments. Click here for more on how a prophet receiving visions is described.
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| 10. | Is it true that Ellen White added to the Word of God? The text reads, | "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18,19. |
| While that is a charge some have leveled against Ellen White, we must examine if it is true. First, there is a difference between expounding on the Word like all preachers and commentators do, and adding. This adding would be to interpret the Word of God wrongly. Expounding on Bible truth and showing the depth of it is "speaking forth" (Acts 26:25) in order to lead people to study God's Word in greater depth. Thus God is not denied His right and privilege of leading us through His messages, for prophets are one of His means (Eph. 4:11-13) to guide people into all truth. In the case of the function and work of Ellen White to be sure if she added to the Bible, you must read her writings. I found she had deep spiritual insights and is expounding the Word of God rightly even in those passages which have been used against her, once they are studied in context and with a knowledge of the history, the reasons for writing some remarks. I concluded she does not add to the Word of God unscriptural interpretations. If you do not know the Bible well, its themes, history and doctrines, you may have difficulty judging this rightly. - So please finish reading this, it may explain some answers as you will see. The rest you find answered in her writings. - But know: There are haters of many - the righteous and the wicked. |
| 11. | What are the physical evidences of a true prophet in vision? |
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A. The prophet will initially lose physical strength.
B. The prophet may later in the vision receive supernatural strength.
C. No breath is discerned in the body of the prophet.
D. The prophet is able to speak.
E. The prophet will not be aware of earthly surroundings.
F. During vision the eyes of a prophet will be open. Note: Though the preceding six Bible points are physical evidences of a true prophet in vision, not all of them always appear together. A prophet's vision may be genuine without manifesting all six evidences. |
| 12. | Is the working of great miracles proof that a prophet is of God? | "They are the spirits of devils working miracles." Revelation 16:14 |
| Answer: No! The devil and his emissaries also have the power to work miracles. Miracles prove only one thing: supernatural power. But such power comes from both God and Satan, Deuteronomy 13:1-5; Revelation 13:13-14. |
| 13. | Of what perilous end-time danger does Jesus warn us? | "There shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; inasmuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24 |
| Answer: God warns us of false Christs and false prophets who will be so extremely convincing that they will deceive all except the very elect of God. Billions will be deceived and lost. We must remember that Satan has great advantages. He possessed the wonderful intellectual power of an angel, of which form few have any just idea. Satan was conscious of his power, or he would not have engaged in a conflict with the mighty God, the everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace. Satan closely watches events, and when he finds one who has a specially strong spirit of opposition to the truth of God he will even reveal to him unfulfilled events, that he may more firmly secure himself a seat in his heart. He who did not hesitate to brave a conflict with Him who holds creation as in His hand, has malignity to persecute and deceive. He holds mortals in his snare at the present time. During his experience of nearly six thousand years he has lost none of his skill and shrewdness. All this time he has been a close observer of all that concerns our race. |
| 14. | How can I determine whether a prophet is true or false? |
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20 "... whatsoever does make manifest is light." Eph. 5:13. |
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Answer: Test their teachings and conduct by the Word of God, which is the Bible. If they teach and behave contrary to Scripture, they are false prophets and `there is no light in them.' In Ephesians Paul is saying, `it is light that makes everything visible.' In other words, those who do not keep even one of the Ten Commandments and oppose "the testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of prophecy" (Rev.19:10) have no "light", correct understanding of scripture.
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| 15. | Are certain types of false prophets specifically named and condemned in the Bible? |
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Answer: Yes. Deuteronomy 18:10-12 and Revelation 21:8 speak against the following types of false prophets [100]:
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A. A charmer | One who casts spells or uses charms. |
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B. An observer of times | An astrologer, whether by newspaper or in person. |
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C. A sorcerer | One who claims to contact the spirit of the dead. |
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D. A consulter with familiar spirits | A person who is known as a medium or channeler. |
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E. A user of divination | A fortune teller. |
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F. An enchanter | This is the same as a charmer. |
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G. A necromancer | This is another name for sorcerer. |
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H. A witch | A female psychic. |
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I. A wizard | A male psychic. |
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J. A numerologist | People who use numbers as influencing our mind in strange ways. |
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K. Was Joseph Smith a true prophet? | Joseph Smith had 84 secret wives before he died. His own book, the Book of Mormon, says that it is an abomination to God. You can read it in Jacob 1:15 where it is called "wicked practices." He was a prophet. He is said to have been had some 64 prophetic visions - all of them wrong. So he was a false prophet. It also tells us to keep the Sabbath holy (Mosiah 18:18-23), and they say he had a prophecy before he died saying they should keep Sunday holy. This underscores that Joseph Smith was a phony prophet. The Bible states, "The spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets." 1.Corinthians 14:32. That means the message of any new prophet has to be checked against those of the Bible. They cannot contradict the Bible. |
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Note: Most of these false prophets claim to have contact with spirits of the dead. The Bible clearly states that the dead cannot be contacted by the living. The supposed spirits of the dead are evil angels, or devils - See: Revelation 16:13-14. Crystal balls, palm reading, leaf deciphering, astrology, and talking with the supposed spirits of the dead are not God's way of communicating with people. The Bible teaches plainly that all who become involved with such things are an abomination (Deuteronomy 18:12). And worse, those who continue involvement will be shut out of God's kingdom (Galatians 5:19-21; Revelation 21:8; 22:14-15. |
| 16. | Is a true prophet's work primarily to serve the church or to serve unbelievers? | "Prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe." 1.Corinthians 14:22 |
| Answer: The Bible is clear. Although a prophet's message may sometimes edify the public, the primary purpose of prophecy is to serve the church. Ellen White is quoted to have said, `If people would have studied the Bible as they should have, there would be no need for a prophet.' But people did not study the Bible that intensely and there is a cumulative effect with respect to lessening of comprehension of its teachings even over centuries as a result. |
| 17. | Does God's end-time church have the gift of prophecy? |
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A. God's end-time church would not exist as an official organization between A.D. 538 and 1798. [Click here and here.] Answer: During the time of the church in the wilderness up to the time of the end, God's faithful people had the Bible, but prophecy was needed for the end time church.B. It would arise and do its work after 1798. C. It would keep the Ten Commandments, including the seventh-day Sabbath of the fourth commandment. D. It would have the gift of prophecy. E. It would be a worldwide missionary church. F. It would be teaching and preaching Jesus' three-point message of Revelation 14:6-14. |
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It is important to remember that God's end-time remnant church must fit all six of Jesus' descriptive points. This means that the gift of prophecy must be included. It will have a prophet. |
| 18. | When you join God's end-time church, which has all of the gifts, how will it affect you? | "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the slight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive." Ephesians 4:14 |
| Answer: It will anchor you spiritually. You will no longer be uncertain and unsettled in your beliefs. |
| 19. | The apostle Paul, in 1.Corinthians 12:1-18, likens the gifts that Jesus gave the church to parts of the body. What part of the body, best represents the gift of prophecy? | "Beforetime in Israel, when a man went to enquire of God, thus he spake, Come, and let us go to the seer: for he that is now called a Prophet was beforetime called a Seer." 1.Samuel 9:9 |
| Answer: Since a prophet is sometimes called a seer (someone who can see into the future), the eyes would best represent the gift of prophecy. |
| 20. | Since prophecy is the eyes of the church, a church without the gift of prophecy would be in what condition? |
| Answer: It would be blind. Jesus referred to the subsequent dangers when He said, "If the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." Matthew 15:14. |
| 21. | Must God's remnant church have all the gifts that Christ gave? | These gifts are: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, Teachers.; 1.Cor. 12:28. |
| Answer: Yes. The Scripture plainly teaches that God's end-time remnant church will "come behind no gift," which means it must have all of the gifts, including the gift of prophecy (1.Corinthians 1:5-8). Exception: Apostles were a gift as long as the original apostles were still alive. There are no successors to those who knew or walked with Jesus. |
| 22. | Revelation 12:17 points out that God's end-time remnant church will "have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 19:10 says that "the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." Can we be sure this means that the church will have a prophet? |
By interpolation Rev. 12:11, the Bible says, reads this way: "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their _______________; and they loved not their lives unto the death." Interpolation: "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their Spirit of Prophecy; and they loved not their lives unto the death." |
| Answer: Yes. An angel told John in Revelation 19:10 that he was John's "fellowservant", one of his "brethren" who have the testimony of Jesus. This same angel repeated the identical information to John in Revelation 22:9. He said: "I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets." Notice this time he called himself a prophet rather than one with the testimony of Jesus. So, obviously, having the "testimony of Jesus" and being a prophet mean the same thing. |
| 23. | Of what other special significance are the words "the testimony of Jesus"? |
| Answer: The "testimony of Jesus" means that the words of a prophet are from Jesus. We are thus to regard the words of a true prophet as a special message from Jesus to us (Revelation 1:1; Amos 3:7). To bring reproach, in any way, upon a true prophet is an extremely dangerous matter. It is the same as bringing reproach upon Jesus, who sends them and guides them. No wonder God warns, "Do my prophets no harm." Psalm 105:15. |
| 24. | What are the Bible qualifications for a true prophet? |
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Answer: The Bible testing points for a true prophet are as follows:
A. A prophet will live a godly life, Matthew 7:15-20. |
| 25. | Did God send a prophet to His end-time church? |
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Answer: Yes, He did! Here are the brief details.
God's end-time church begins to form in the early 1840's and desperately needed guidance. So, in harmony with His promise of Amos 3:7, God then called a young woman named Ellen Harmon to be His prophetess. Ellen accepted the call. She had been injured in an accident at age 9 and had to quit school with only three years of formal education. Her health deteriorated until, when called by God at age 17, she weighed only 70 pounds and had been given up to die.
Ellen accepted God's call with the understanding that He would enable her physically and keep her humble. She lived an additional 70 years and died at age 87. She insisted that her aim and work were to point the church and its members to the Bible - which was to be its creed - and to Jesus' free gift of righteousness. Ellen fulfilled every test of a prophet mentioned in the study above.
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| 26. | Did Ellen White have visions? |
| Answer: Yes, many of them. they lasted from a few minutes to six hours. And they meet the Bible standard for visions outlined in number 11 of this Bible Study Guide. |
| 27. | Are Ellen White's words intended to be part of the Bible, or an addition to the Bible? |
| Answer: No! Doctrine comes from the Bible alone. As an end-time prophet, her aim was to stress the love of Jesus and His imminent return. She urged people to serve Him and accept His righteousness as a free gift. She also directed people's attention to the Bible prophecies for the end time - especially Jesus' three point message for the world today, Revelation 14:6-14 - and urged that they share these messages of hope quickly and worldwide. Overall we can say that the missing inspired books of the prophet Nathan and Iddo tell us that, `All of Scripture is God's word, but all of God's word is not in the Scripture.' 2.Chr. 9:29; 12:15. |
| 28. | Does Ellen White speak in harmony with the Scriptures? |
| Answer: Yes! Her writings are saturated with Scripture. Her stated and obvious purpose was to point people to the Bible. Her words, contrary to what some detractors have written, never contradict God's Word. |
| 29. | How can I accept Ellen White as a true prophet, since I do not know what she wrote? |
| Answer: You can't, until you read what she has written. However, you can know that she (1) meets the tests of a prophet, (2) did the work of a prophet, and that (3) God's true end-time church must have a prophet. We urge you to get one of her books and read it. As you read it, ask yourself if it draws you to Jesus and if it is in harmony with the Bible. It was written for you. We think you shall find it absolutely enthralling. |
| 30. | What three-point command does the apostle Paul give us regarding a prophet? |
| Answer: "Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." 1.Thessalonians 5:20-21. The apostle Paul says that we should not despise or "tune out" a prophet. But rather, we should carefully test what the prophet says and does by the Bible. If a prophet's words and behavior are in harmony with the Bible, we should heed them. This is what Jesus asks of His end-time people today. |
| 31. | How does Jesus regard the rejection of the words and counsel of a true prophet? |
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Answer: Jesus counts the rejection of a true prophet as rejecting the counsel of God, Luke 7:28-30:
"I tell you ... there is no one greater than John ... all the people acknowledged that God's way was right, because they had been baptized by John. But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God's purpose for themselves, because they had not been baptized by John." [NIV] Jesus pointed out that the mission of John, the messenger, was prophesied in the Bible, Mt. 11:7-10; Lk. 7:25-28. A prophet is also a messenger, Mt. 21:26. Further, He clearly states that spiritual prosperity hinges upon believing His prophets, 2.Chronicles 20:20. |
| 32. | Do true end-time prophets originate new doctrine, or does doctrine come strictly from the Bible? |
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Answer: True end-time prophets do not originate doctrine, Revelation 22:18-19. The Bible is the source of all doctrine. However, true prophets do:
A. Reveal exciting new facets of old-time Bible doctrines that were not obvious until pointed out by the prophet, Amos 3:7. |
| Notes: We learn here about that group of people who in stubborn impenitence, unwillingness to seek God's way, comfort themselves with the assurance that there is to be no punishment for the sinner; that all mankind, it matters not how corrupt, are to be exalted in heaven, to become as the angels of God. But still more verbose and emphatically are those making a covenant with death and an agreement with hell, who renounce the truths which Heaven has provided as a defense for God's people in the day of trouble, and instead accept the many lies Satan offers - the delusive pretensions of spiritualism. Nothing can arouse their fears. So fully have they yielded to the tempter, so closely are they united with him, and so thoroughly influenced by his spirit, that they have no power and no inclination to break away from the deceptive snares entangling them. - This is how Satan, a spirit being, deceives the whole world. He is getting now very close to accomplish his designs; but it will be fully reached in the last remnant of time. People are fast being lulled into a false sense of security with respect to the judgment of God and the end of the ages. Only the outpouring of the wreath of God can now wake them up. The beginning of this outpouring is happening even right now and a few will come to their senses and consider God's Word. |
| 34. | Are you willing to test Ellen White's writings by Scripture and accept her counsel if it is in harmony with the Bible? | Your answer: "______________________________." |
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Your Thought Questions Answered |
| 1. | What happens when a church does not have a prophet? |
Answer: "Where there is no vision [prophecy], the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he." Proverbs 29:18 When a church does not have a prophet to counsel, guide, and lead it back to Jesus and the Bible, the people will flounder in a disoriented manner (Psalm 74:9) and eventually perish. |
| 2. | Do you think additional true prophets may appear between now and Jesus' second coming? |
Answer: Based on Joels' prophecy (Joel 2:28-32), it certainly appears possible. There also will be false prophets (Matthew 7:15; 24:11,24). We must be prepared to test prophets by the Bible (Isaiah 8:19-20; 2.Timothy 2:15), heeding their counsel only if they are genuine and rejecting them if they are counterfeit. God knows when prophets are needed to wake people up, warn them, and turn them to Jesus and His Word. He sent a prophet (Moses) to lead His people out of Egypt (Hosea 12:13). He sent a prophet (John the Baptist) to prepare people for Jesus' first coming (Mark 1:1-8). He also promised prophetic messages for these end-time days. God sends them to point us to the Bible and its crucial end-time prophecies; to strengthen, encourage, and assure us; and to make us like Jesus so we will be "blameless" when the Master returns. Without the help of a prophet, many will be lost through backsliding, sleeping spiritually, and being too busy. So let's welcome prophetic messages and praise God for sending them for our personal good. |
| 4. | What can I do to make the gift of prophecy meaningful to me? |
Answer: The way to make the gift of prophecy meaningful is to study it for yourself and follow it prayerfully so Jesus can guide and preserve you and prepare you for His coming. "I thank my God always ... That in every thing ye are enriched by him, ... Even as the testimony of Christ [spirit of prophecy] was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." 1.Corinthians 1:4-8
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| 5. | Which of these two - the gift of prophecy or the gift of tongues - will play the major role in God's end-time remnant church? |
Answer: The gift of prophecy will play the leading role. In 1.Corinthians 12:28 it is listed as second in importance of all the gifts, while the gift of tongues is listed last. A church without the gift of prophecy is blind. Jesus solemnly warns His end-time church of the danger of blindness and urges them to anoint their eyes with heavenly eyesalve so they will be able to see, Revelation 3:17-18. The eyesalve represents the Holy Spirit, 1.John 2:20,27; John 14:26, who gives all gifts to the church, 1.Corinthians 12:4, 7-11. Heeding the words of God's prophet will help His end-time remnant people clearly understand the Bible and will prevent uncertainty and confusion. |
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I believe in `the Bible and the Bible only' as the source of doctrine and guidance for Christian living. Therefore, I reject all modern-day prophets. `Sola scriptura' is a worth while principle but many who think they base their faith on that motto are not really consistent in that as we show here. |
Answer: You are correct in believing in the Bible as the source of Christian doctrine. However, please remember that the Bible clearly points out that: A. The gift of prophecy will exist in God's church until the end of time, Ephesians 4:11,13. B. Jesus' end-time church will have the gift of prophecy, Revelation 12:17; 19:10; 22:9. C. To reject a prophet's counsel is to reject Christ's counsel, Luke 7:28-30. D. We are commanded to test prophets and follow their counsel if they speak and live in harmony with the Bible, 1.Thessalonians 5:20-21. People who base their faith on "the Bible only" must follow its counsel regarding prophets. True prophets will always speak harmony with the Bible. Prophets who contradict God's Word are false and should be rejected. If I fail to listen and test prophets, I am not basing my faith upon the Bible, which mandates doing so. |
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How would you show that prophecy is the equivalent of Scripture?
Statement: Detractors claim that prophecy is not the equivalent of Scripture. They say, prophecy is a particular word for a particular congregation (or person) at a particular time through a particular person. Scripture is for all Christians in all places at all time. [Michael Green, To Corinth With Love, (London: Hodder and Stoughton, 1982), p. 75, quoted by Bradford, More Than a Prophet, p. 244.]
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"Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 1.Cor. 12:29. |
| Answer: The above authors seem to fail to consider that statements like the above statement could marginalize much of the Bible itself. The epistles of Paul were written to specific congregations and individuals. So were most, if not all, of the Old Testament prophetic messages. The distinction drawn above between Scripture on the one hand, and prophecy directed to specific places or persons on the other, is never drawn by Scripture itself. Both, the Old and New Testament, are inspired by God, 2.Timothy 3:15,16, and consist not at all of private interpretation or human motive, but are exclusively the product of the divine Spirit, 2.Peter 1:20,21. And what the Spirit inspires is to be understood by comparison with itself, 1.Corinthians 2:12-14 and Isaiah 28:9, 10. Scholarly opinion is not needed to explain the Bible. Jesus Himself declared: I thank Thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes." Matthew 11:25. |
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Question: Are not the examples of
a) Balaam and the prophet who cursed Jeroboam's altar, along with evidences for prophetic limitations and fallibility? |
And it came to pass that night, that the word of the LORD came unto Nathan, saying,
Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the LORD, Thou shalt build me an house for me to dwell in." 2.Samuel 7:4-5. "And it came to pass the same night, that the word of God came to Nathan, saying, 17:4 Go and tell David my servant, Thus saith the LORD, Thou shalt not build me an house to dwell in." 1.Chronicles 17:3-4. |
| 37. | The sceptic says: `Remember, all Scripture is inspired, but not all scripture carries the same redemptive value. If we lost the genealogies of the Bible, would we miss them as much as the Sermon on the Mount?' |
We had better let the Bible speak for itself: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." 2 Timothy 3:16. |
| Answer: Nowhere does the Bible permit itself to be divided into portions of greater or lesser saving value. Such talk becomes exceedingly perilous, as it places human wisdom, perception, cultural preferences, and experience in judgment over the sacred record. |
| 38. | Scholars and their followers may raise many questions, indulge in so much speculation regarding prophets and how they do their work, that the likelihood is greatly reduced that any who follow their logic will ever again tremble at the word of the Lord (Ezra 10:3; Isaiah 66:5). |
One of the doubters writes: `For those of us who have never received a revelation from God, it is difficult to understand what is taking place. What we do know is that there are three stages to the prophetic process: a) The revelation, b) The interpretation, c) The application.' - Regarding the revelation, we would expecct that there would be no mistakes because God never offers anything imperfect or faulty. However, it is possible that mistakes could be made at stages 2 and 3 - in the interpretation and application. |
| Answer: One might just as easily question the scientific, physical process of how God could speak worlds into existence, form the infinitely complex human organism from the dust of the ground, transform Himself into a zygote, or how we might ascertain the physiological methods by which Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead. |
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The doubter's approach to Scripture, and to Ellen White, is one in which the inspired Word is captive to the limitations of culture, prejudice, superstition, and time. Transcendence is lost, and one is forced to rummage for God's message amid the litter of human opinion. In his words: `We can conclude that what God has revealed to the prophet they can speak with confidence. However there will be many situations where they will be merely giving their own opinion.' How would you answer that? |
He offers no scriptural guidance, certainly not from Inspiration, as to how to tell the difference. He makes no effort to harmonize such pronouncements with such statements from Scripture as the following: "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man, but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2.Peter 1:20,21. "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe." 1.Thess. 2:13. |
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The doubter's reduction of Ellen White's authority notwithstanding, we can thank God for the following statement from her pen, regarding the transcendence of Holy Scripture: "In God's word only do we behold the power that laid the foundations of the earth, and that stretched out the heavens. Here only do we find an authentic account of the origin of nations. Here only is given a history of our race unsullied by human pride or prejudice." EGW, Messages to Young People, p. 263. |
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The doubter also denigrates the ministry of the prophet Jeremiah in his effort to prove prophetic fallibility, declaring: `Day after day he stood at the entrance to the temple and plagued the life out of people with his doomsday predictions.' How would you counter such a statement? |
He offers not a whisper of biblical evidence that God disapproved of Jeremiah's methods. Repeatedly, in the book of Jeremiah, it is stated that "the word of the Lord" was being delivered by the prophet to Judah and Jerusalem. See Jeremiah 2:1; 3:6; 7:1; 8:1; 10:1; 11:1; 24:1, 3-5; 26:1, 2; 27:1.
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| Answer: On what biblical grounds does this doubter offer such disrespect to a prophet of the Most High? What do such sentiments accomplish, other than to offer aid and comfort to those who crave smooth preaching and resent the voice of godly rebuke? |
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The doubter likewise repeats the observations regarding the shortcomings of John the Baptist, using John's private doubts about Jesus and misunderstanding of the Messiah's kingdom as evidence of how wrong prophets can supposedly be. How would you show that such complaints are not true?
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"Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 1.Cor. 12:29. |
| Answer: But we must recognize the difference between private doubts and convictions on the one hand, and public instruction and counsel to the church on the other. Whatever errors or personal conflicts John believed or experienced, the Scripture does not record any reflection of these in his public prophetic instruction. |
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Even more dangerously, the doubter again faults John for teaching the reform of the life of a seeking person as a condition of salvation (Luke 3:11-14), allegedly in contrast with "salvation by grace". How could we explain that? | The Bible says, "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. ... But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible." Matthew 19:16,17,26. "And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live." Luke 10:25-28. |
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Here are a few more scriptures on the relationship between the conditions for salvation and grace: "Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile." Romans 2:6-10. In other words, God will give to each person according to that which he has done. To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil ... for God does not show favoritism. "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." Romans 8:13. In other words, For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death (stop doing them) the misdeeds of your body, you will live. "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him." Hebrews 5:9. That speaks for itself. But if it is not enough click here!
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| Answer: The problem is not with the salvation theology of John the Baptist, but with the theology of the detractor(s). Jesus and Paul were just as clear as John in teaching that Spirit-empowered obedience is the condition of salvation. [See scriptures above] Our study of the doubter's views will demonstrate that an unscriptural doctrine of salvation forms a key component of his [their] effort to marginalize and reduce the authority of Ellen White's prophetic gift. |
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The doubter raises familiar but fallacious issues in his effort to culturalize inspired writings: 'There can be no doubt that God does meet people where they are in many of their cultural concepts. Think about the difficulty we have with Old Testament laws such as those that deal with slavery, the treatment of women, and blood vengeance.' | See the writings of Moses for examples. |
| Answer: For God to meet people in their cultural settings is one thing. Meeting them in their cultural concepts, by contrast, implies that the authority of the written Word is at least partially derived from the surrounding culture, thus necessitating later correction by a subsequent culture. Understandably, doubters or detractors may offer no evidence that the Old Testament, or any part of Scripture, ever endorses slavery, the mistreatment of women, or blood vengeance. The fact that laws were divinely given to mitigate the cruelty of these practices in no way implies divine endorsement of the practices themselves. |
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The detractors raise similar doubts about the Bible by questioning `the brutality of the Israelites toward the Canaanites,' which they admit Israel did `at the command of God.' Similar comments are made about what are often called the `imprecatory psalms,' in which they say, `The psalmists ask God to do terrible things to their enemies.' How should we answer that? | The Bible says, "And she said unto the men, I know that the LORD hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you. For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed. And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath." Joshua 2:9-11.
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The raising of such open-ended questions, answered by a deeper study of the Word, serve only to reduce respect for, and destroy the transcendence of, the Sacred Writings. Israel's Exodus from Egypt and subsequent conquest of Canaan were attended by supernatural signs visible to the heathen as well as to God's people, (Exodus 7-14; Joshua 2:9-11; 5:1), and did not take place till the iniquity of the Canaanites was full (Genesis 15:16). The destruction of these peoples was to be a divine punishment, unmotivated by spoil or plunder (Joshua 6:18, 19; 1 Samuel 15:3, 14-19), inflicted only when the clear evidence that God was with Israel had been rejected, thus ending the probation of these peoples. Originally, of course, it was God's plan for these nations to be subdued without warfare (Exodus 23:27-30), but as happened so often in Israel's history, a plan other than God's original one was used. But when one considers the supernatural displays and spiritual conditions which accompanied the dispossession of these peoples, it is clear these actions cannot be justly compared - as some have compared them - to the genocidal wars so common throughout history. With the imprecatory psalms, human vengeance is not at work, but rather, the surrender of one's enemies to the impartial vengeance of the divine. Psalm 137:7-9 doesn't command anyone to go do these things. It simply says those who will in fact do them will prosper, thus bringing about Babylon's utter destruction. It is God inflicting punishment, and God's people rejoice in the eminently just, reluctant justice of a holy and loving God (See Isaiah 28:21; Ezekiel 18:23, 31, 32; 33:11). |
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The doubter says, `Paul makes a statement in 1 Corinthians 13 regarding the partial nature of human knowledge (verses 9, 10, 12), and applies this - as does Paul himself (verse 9) - to the prophetic gift. How should we react to that? | We read,
"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." 1.Cor. 13:12. |
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Answer: The possession by a prophet of mere partial knowledge does not mean the prophet's testimonies to the church must inevitably contain some error. Seeing "through a glass, darkly" (1.Corinthians 13:12) is not the same as seeing incorrectly. Two more examples show that partial knowledge does not mean error is unavoidable:
1st - Detractors may want to study Jeremiah's refusal to answer the false prophet Hananiah until the former received instruction from God (Jeremiah 28:10, 11), and
Here we have two instances providing plain evidence that prophets do not give spiritual counsel unless God supernaturally directs them. In our discussion of Ellen White's ministry we will note how the absence of divine instruction on certain issues, not the absence of authority on her part to settle such issues, is what accounts for her refusal to address certain controversies while she did in fact address others. |
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This point on the subject from (45) is clarified further when detractors speak of the prophet Samuel "not having the right idea of who was to be the next king of Israel" (1 Samuel 16:6-13). How could we explain that? | We read,
"And it came to pass, when they were come, that he [Samuel] looked on Eliab, and said, Surely the LORD's anointed is before him.
But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature ... for the LORD seeth not as man seeth ... but the LORD looketh on the heart.
Then Jesse called Abinadab ... Shammah ... and Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel. And Samuel said unto Jesse, The LORD hath not chosen these.
And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said ... fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither. ... And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.
Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah." 1.Sam. 16:6-13. |
| Answer: Again we can see how closely heaven guards the inspired counsel and divinely-directed actions of prophets. While Samuel certainly had the momentary, mistaken thought that Jesse's eldest son was the Lord's anointed (verse 6), God quickly corrected Samuel (verse 7), then proceeded to give him explicit guidance regarding each of Jesse's other sons (verses 8-13). Detractors may have had a case for `prophetic error under divine inspiration' had Samuel mistakenly anointed the wrong man, proclaimed him to be God's chosen, then gone back (perhaps even after the new king's coronation), acknowledged he was wrong, then declared who God's real choice was. Obviously, that didn't happen. |
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Detractors also use the apostle Paul's initial counsel to the ship captain on his way to Rome as evidence that prophets at times give their own opinion, only to have God correct them later. Because Paul earlier expressed his fear that loss of life would result if the ship left Crete (Acts 27:10), only to later assure the sailors during the storm that God's angel had promised none would be lost (verses 22-24), dectrators may claim:
'It would seem that the statement of disaster was Paul giving his opinion in view of the circumstances under which they were going to sail. He was talking without having received a revelation. Later, when God spoke to him, the revelation gave an entirely different message.'
Can you explain this now? | We read, And [Paul] said unto them, Sirs, I perceive that this voyage will be with hurt and much damage, not only of the lading and ship, but also of our lives." Acts 27:10. When in fact God's angel does give him counsel, he makes it clear to the sailors it is God who is speaking (verses 22-24). |
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Answer: The implication, as we observed before, is that none can be sure when a prophet is speaking for God or giving his or her own judgment, opinion, prejudice, or preconception. But Paul is very clear, in his statement to the ship's officers, that he was giving his own opinion when he first warned of possible danger. Notice how Paul says, "I perceive." He isn't giving inspired counsel, to the church or others, nor does he claim God showed him that disaster would result if the ship put out to sea. (Though, of course, probably on the strength of experience or prevailing `weather reports' he might have heard, his misgivings were certainly vindicated by the events that followed.) |
| 48. | Detractors may embrace a popular evangelical theory that the gift of prophecy, as exercised by the apostles, ceased when the Scriptures were completed. They may declare, `With the close of the Apostolic age, the prophetic gift as exercised by the apostles ended.' One such detractor quotes as authority for this claim, not any verse of Scripture, but rather, the Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, with its declaration as to the presumed "disappearance of the prophetic office" at the close of the New Testament. |
The Bible, however, does not support this view. Paul declares, regarding the gifts of the Spirit: "Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift, waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Corinthians 1:6,7. So, how long do we think the gifts, including prophecy, last?
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Answer: In other words, all the gifts of the Spirit are stated by Paul to function till the return of Christ. Once again detractors are found to engage in misleading and less than mediocre substantiation of their claims. Lastly, those readers who got this far please take a note of this. There are pastors in non-Adventist churches who secretly use Ellen White's writings because they are so powerful in the way they explain scriptures, but then turn around and condemn her. They are using her insights but deny to know her as a prophet. So, read her writings and then listen carefully to find out who these are and pray for them so they may be saved. |
| 49. | Some make a big point about Ellen White presenting not a cut and dry view on the nature of Christ. How do we explain some of her apparent contradictory comments? | Such remarks are often made by those who do not read whole paragraphs, chapters or books. It depends on the topic she writes about. If she writes about the divinity of Christ, of course it would appear that she is de-emphasizing His human side, and vice a versa. |
| Answer: It is also interesting to note that her apparent perspective changes based on the theological issues she is addressing. These seemingly contradictory statements do not constitute flip-flopping in the mold of present-day politicians. Instead, it represents an intentional focus on the aspects of the truth that would speak most directly to the issue at hand. It seems that all of the arguments would cease if people allowed themselves to look at all of her statements on an issue instead of just a few. This debate is a good example of a need for a more comprehensive view of theological issues. The reality is that the Bible has little to say about Christ's human nature, and Ellen White has statements that would support either view. Is it possible that the true answer is, "both?" Similarly Jesus was enough like us to understand our plight as humans, yet enough different to be called our Savior. As we seek to investigate the "mystery" of God who was man, I'm not sure how well we will truly understand. |
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Finally, is there a Bible prophecy which we can point to that is easy to recognize as having been fulfilled? - Yes, there are many, one of them is this one,
"And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there." Isaiah 13:19,20. | When did Isaiah write? Isaiah lived between ________ and ________ B.C. When did Babylon cease to exist? The city of Babylon was destroyed by _______________________________ in _______ B.C., that means, Babylon as a nation also ceased to exist at that date. |
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Answer: Isaiah is one of the older prophets. His time is well attested by the historical information contained in his book of which there exist ancient copies. He lived and wrote between 740 to 690 BC, during which the Ten tribes and their capital of Samaria ceased to exist. He prophesied that the Chaldeans and Babylon, which had no prominence in his days, would some day be known as a glorious kingdom but then vanish like Sodom and Gomorrah. This actually happened when Cyrus conquered the city in 538 B.C. The Babylonian empire existed a mere 68 years. Between 690 and 538 Nineveh was the famous city, which was destroyed shortly before the start of Babylon. The important point on this topic is, `How could Isaiah know that Babylon and its people would be a glorious kingdom and then vanish like Sodom and Gomorrah, but the Arabs (verse 20) would continue to exist? The Arabs would pitch their tent in many places but not in Babylon- which is a way of saying, not in Babylon as an attractive place? Isaiah knew it, because he was a prophet of God who showed it to him (verse1). |
The concept of a closed Bible canon, which Ellen White supports [White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 663], is an issue separate from that of prophetic authority. A recent biography of Mormon founder Joseph Smith observes how Ellen White, in contrast with Smith, did not give her writings equality with Scripture. [Richard Lyman Bushman, Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 2005, p. 128.] The Bible explains about the lesser and the greater light as follows,
In short, the function of Scripture is to establish truth. The function of the writings of Ellen White is to clarify and confirm it. Different function. Same authority. Again we cite Paul's statement to the Thessalonians, which offers no hint of any mixture of human opinion with the divine word in the messages delivered to the church: "For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe." 1.Thessalonians 2:13. And to those inclined to pick and choose in her writings which are of God and which are of human origin, the modern prophet offers these solemn warnings:
"I have my work to do, to meet the misconceptions of those who suppose themselves able to say what is testimony from God and what is human production. If those who have done this work continue in this course, satanic agencies will choose for them.
Those who have helped souls to feel at liberty to specify what is of God in the Testimonies and what are the uninspired words of Sister White, will find that they were helping the devil in his work of deception." "Yet now, when I send you a testimony of warning and reproof, many of you declare it to be merely the opinion of Sister White. You have thereby insulted the Spirit of God." [White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 64] In Closing this section on doubters about the ministry of Ellen White here are some points: Some critics say that
These presuppositions assume a verbal-inspiration concept that SdAs do not hold. If we do not hold the Bible to be verbally inspired, why should we for E. White? See Jer. 43:2-4. E. White's writings are a help for the church in the time of the end; they focus the reader's attention on the Bible. They do not replace the Bible. |
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